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The Chinese Agama parallel of MN 117
Dear Bhante,
Many thanks for replying to my previous inquiry/feedback. I'm very happy to see online Pali-English and Chinese-English dictionaries at Sutta Central. Great work!
While appreciating very much the very helpful listing of Chinese agama parallels on the website (which has greatly facilitated my sutta study), I happen to notice today that MA 189 is listed as the Chinese agama parallel of MN 117, and wonder if SA 785 and SA 789 can also be considered as partial parallels to MN 117. In MA 189 only one path (a kind of "hybrid" path with the supramundane right view missing) and twenty factors were actually there, although “the Great Forty” (“twenty factors on the side of the wholesome, and twenty factors on the side of the unwholesome”) was mentioned there as in MN 117. In both SA 785 and SA 789 the two paths (mundane and supramundane) similar to those in MN 117 were seen, with the four noble truths (missing in MN 117) preserved before the mentioning of the mental factors for the path factors in the supramundane path. I thought that SA 785 and SA 789 could help the readers to understand the important and controversial MN 117.
More details on the comparison can be seen at http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=22..., if interested. Some relevant discussion can also be seen at http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=82...
Your corrections and comments would be highly appreciated.
With gratitude and metta,
Starter
Many thanks for replying to my previous inquiry/feedback. I'm very happy to see online Pali-English and Chinese-English dictionaries at Sutta Central. Great work!
While appreciating very much the very helpful listing of Chinese agama parallels on the website (which has greatly facilitated my sutta study), I happen to notice today that MA 189 is listed as the Chinese agama parallel of MN 117, and wonder if SA 785 and SA 789 can also be considered as partial parallels to MN 117. In MA 189 only one path (a kind of "hybrid" path with the supramundane right view missing) and twenty factors were actually there, although “the Great Forty” (“twenty factors on the side of the wholesome, and twenty factors on the side of the unwholesome”) was mentioned there as in MN 117. In both SA 785 and SA 789 the two paths (mundane and supramundane) similar to those in MN 117 were seen, with the four noble truths (missing in MN 117) preserved before the mentioning of the mental factors for the path factors in the supramundane path. I thought that SA 785 and SA 789 could help the readers to understand the important and controversial MN 117.
More details on the comparison can be seen at http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=22..., if interested. Some relevant discussion can also be seen at http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=82...
Your corrections and comments would be highly appreciated.
With gratitude and metta,
Starter
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Thanks for the thanks, and for the interesting comments. These are certainly related suttas, and perhaps should be included as parallels, or partial parallels. I'll forward your suggestion to Rod Bucknell, who is our resident authority on parallels. Obviously at the end of the day there will be a degree of subjective judgement as to what is and is not a parallel; but our guiding principle is that we want to point students towards related texts that can help illuminate the study.
with metta
Bhante Sujato